Political Science Discussion Week 8

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Initial Post Instructions You have already taken the quiz as part of the lesson this week; now, tell the class about your results and what they mean. What is your ideological placement? Then, analyze why you believe the results or do not believe the results. Do these results reflect your voting record? Use evidence (cite sources) to support your response from assigned readings or online lessons, and at least one outside scholarly source.

Follow-Up Post Instructions Respond to at least two peers or one peer and the instructor. Further the dialogue by providing more information and clarification. Minimum of 1 scholarly source, which can include your textbook or assigned readings or may be from your additional scholarly research.

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Course Outcomes (CO): 1, 4

Due Date for Initial Post: By 11:59 p.m. MT on Wednesday Due Date for Follow-Up Posts: By 11:59 p.m. MT on Saturday

Lesson Minimum of 1 scholarly source (in addition to the textbook) PEW Quiz (https://www.people-press.org/quiz/political-typology/)

Minimum of 3 posts (1 initial & 2 follow-up) Minimum of 2 sources cited (assigned readings/online lessons and an outside scholarly source) APA format for in-text citations and list of references

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Class,

Might tests purporting to identify our political leanings/ideology/party affiliation/etc. actually serve to increase polarization, particularly in 2020, without accurately capturing a person’s ideology or adding to their knowledge of ideologies, issues, or anything else? Is this test particularly susceptible to this criticism (link, (http://www.bradwarthen.com/2018/03/this-pew-typology-quiz-isnt-nearly-as-good-as-the-old- one/) link (https://brewminate.com/political-typology-reveals-deep-fissures-on-the-right-and-left/) )?

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GRADING THE TEST Angela and Class,

Is this test a useful tool for folks to learn more about political positions and beliefs, both their own and others? If so, how come?

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Is the test, at best, flawed and inaccurate? If so in what ways? Are there too few choices to choose from? Are the choices too stark? Is it just not helpful to place these sorts of labels on folks? Are there other issues?

Sam

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GRADING THE TEST Kylie and Class,

Is this test a useful and even important tool for folks to learn more about political positions and beliefs, both their own and others? If so, how come?

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Is the test, at best, flawed and inaccurate? If so in what ways? Are there too few choices to choose from? Are the choices too stark? Is there not enough representation of positions in the middle on these issues? Is it just not helpful to place these sorts of labels on folks? Are there other issues?

Sam

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GRADING THE TEST Angela, Miranda, Bre, Stacey, Kimberly, and Class,

This test is worthwhile Because:

This test is irredeemably flawed because:

Sam

it helps folks learn more about their own political positions and beliefs; it provides a broad assessment of American political views and ideologies; it allows for changes in ideology/belief to be recognized; and/or what else?

there too few choices to choose from; the choices too stark; there is not enough representation of positions in the middle; it does not adequately or accurately capture folks’ real positions; it is just not helpful to place these sorts of labels on folks; we don’t need to know what people believe in; and/or what else?

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GRADING THE TEST Jessica, Kylie, and Class,

This test is worthwhile Because:

This test is irredeemably flawed because:

Which side has the better arguments?

Sam

it helps folks learn more about their own political positions and beliefs; it gives a broad assessment of American political views and ideologies: it allows for changes in ideology/belief to be recognized; it is not meant to exactly capture each individual’s ideology precisely, but just to provide general information; diversity within each of these groups is explicitly acknowledged; and/or what else?

there too few choices to choose from; the choices too stark; there is not enough representation of positions in the middle; it does not adequately or accurately capture folks’ real positions; it is just not helpful to place these sorts of labels on folks; we don’t need to know what people believe in; and/or what else?

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GRADING THE TEST Dorcas and Class,

This test is worthwhile Because:

This test is irredeemably flawed because:

Which side has the better arguments?

Sam

it helps folks learn more about their own political positions and beliefs; it gives a broad assessment of American political views and ideologies: it allows for changes in ideology/belief to be recognized; it is not meant to exactly capture each individual’s ideology precisely, but just to provide general information; diversity within each of these groups is explicitly acknowledged; and/or what else?

there too few choices to choose from; the choices too stark; there is not enough representation of positions in the middle; it does not adequately or accurately capture folks’ real positions; it is just not helpful to place these sorts of labels on folks; we shouldn’t put folks in categories; we don’t need to know what people believe in; and/or what else?

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Professor,

In my opinion, the test is for both positions and beliefs for others and themselves. I feel this way because it does allow us different scopes to look through from many different perspectives. This outlook allows us to learn more about ourselves and what other stances are out there. Now, I don’t think that the test will determine 100% where you stand, but it will give you a general idea. I think it is beneficial to learn other stances to relate them to you own. That is what learning is all about, being given different concepts to interact with and relating to it.

 

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Kylie King (h!ps://chamberlain.instructure.com/courses/68288/users/169214) Wednesday

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Professor,

In response to the second question, I would go look at Angela’s post. With her discussion, it can be seen that there are too few choices to choose from and that the PEW looks at the results as a spectrum with few considerations in the middle ground areas. I think it can be helpful to not label, but guide individuals into learning about their own beliefs and with said belies where they potentially stand. Other issues might include the fact that someone was given a certain label, for instance, mine was a “deferred democrat”, but instead of voting democrat I decide to vote republican. Now, the PEW Research Center doesn’t tell me who I have to vote for, but it gives me a good idea where I lie on the spectrum, but not where my views line up with Presidential candidates or the candidate views lining up with my own. Nonetheless, there are evolving views out there, so what makes up for those sorts of things?

 

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Professor and Class,

The information provided by The PEW Center was interesting because I was not aware that there were different groups within the Democratic or Republican parties. It is interesting to know how the quiz categorizes you, but it will not change my views.

The quiz did offer few choices, but I think the quiz’s intention is for The PEW Center to gain a broad assessment of the political views and how they are trending (“Pew Research Center Methods – Methods”, 2020) . For example, are the current views leaning more to the right or more to the left. As with life, there are no black and white but gray areas we all live in, so it would be hard to categorize people in such a manner.

I don’t particularly appreciate that we label people or feel the need to do so. These labels should not define a person. With there being so few choices in the quiz, they are boxing us into categories. That said, this quiz is useful to see how Americans are leaning, and the curve that political views hold, and how they may be changing.

Reference

Pew Research Center Methods – Methods. Pew Research Center Methods. (2020). Retrieved 20 October 2020, from https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/) .

Political Typology Quiz. (2020, August 27). Retrieved from https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

 

 

 

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Hello Anglea,

I made almost the same statement in my original post. I dont believe anything is black and white in life. I dont like that we have to label each other so that you are either democrat or republican. Even though this quiz showed some subgroups, everything narrowed down to either republican or democrat. Personally, I believe that everyone should mind their own business and let people be people. Why do we care so much about who marries who or what you wear? The PEW research center really goes in depth to discuss the differences of each groups beliefs, but why do we even need labels?

 

Political Typology Reveals Deep Fissures on the Right and Left. (2020, August 28). Retrieved October 21, 2020, from https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/political- typology-reveals-deep-fissures-on-the-right-and-left/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/political-typology-reveals-deep-fissures-on-the- right-and-left/)

 

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Kylie King (h!ps://chamberlain.instructure.com/courses/68288/users/169214) Wednesday

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Angela,

I think you took an interesting approach to how you answered this question. I agree that nothing in life is black and white. I think the way you portrayed that made it really relatable to there being few categories in the political party via PEW. Do you think there is more to being left versus right? Is there a fine line in the middle that people can be grouped into?

 

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After taking the quiz, I have been categorized as a core conservative. This is a little surprising to me, honestly. I know I lean more toward the conservative side, but I am more liberal on some things, so I naturally assumed I was somewhere in between and not to the far-right side as this survey indicates. Maybe I am not as open as I thought, either.

Some of my views differ strongly compared to other core conservatives, according to The Pew Research Center. For example, I believe there are still obstacles that make it harder for women than men to get ahead, and in a world that is made up mostly of females, it is evident every day. However, 90% of core conservatives believe otherwise (“How the Political Typology groups compare,” 2020). However, it appears that women politicians are on the rise in the last two years, with women holding 28.9 percent of all state legislative seats (Winograd, 2020).

Another issue I disagree with gay marriage. While 49% of the core conservative party is opposed to it, I personally agree with gay marriage. More than 500,000 same-sex couples in the United States are married, and of those, about 300,000 have wed since the 2015 ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in 50 states (Wolf, 2020). Despite this, the LGBTQ community still fights discrimination in areas like adoption and foster care, transgender people’s rights to join the military, or to use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender identity (Wolf, 2020).

I believe the political typology quiz to be like so many people in that it generalizes your political beliefs and party based on a few questions. You only have two choices, which is not a clear and true representation of a person’s beliefs or ideology. I don’t know why people are continually insisting that we put a label on everything and everyone.

Reference

How the Political Typology groups compare. Pew Research Center – U.S. Politics & Policy. (2020). Retrieved 18 October 2020, from https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political-typology- comparison-2017/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political-typology-comparison-2017/) .

Winograd, M. (2020). The future is female: How the growing political power of women will remake American politics. Brookings. Retrieved 18 October 2020, from https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/02/19/the-future-is-female-how-the-growing-political- power-of-women- (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/02/19/the-future-is-female-how-the-growing- political-power-of-women-) .

Wolf, R. (2020). Usatoday.com. Retrieved 18 October 2020, from https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/25/lgbtq-rights-five-years-after-gay-marriage- ruling-battles-continue/3242992001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/25/lgbtq- rights-five-years-after-gay-marriage-ruling-battles-continue/3242992001/)

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Veronica Smith McCormick (h!ps://chamberlain.instructure.com/courses/68288/users/140818) Monday

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Hello Angela. I can understand why you were surprised to be labeled a core conservative. I believe that most people just like you are not as extreme on all issues like the minority of people who are far left and far right. Every issues is just not that cut and dry like these two groups tend to be. I think that this quiz has revealed some things about each of us that will help us to be the best citizens that we can be for the future of our great nation.

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Veronica and Class,

Does a successful democracy need people situated all along this ideological continuum? Does a successful democracy need folks along the continuum to communicate with one another in a constructive way?

Sam

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Hi Angela,

I too was categorized as a core conservative, although I was not surprised by my results. After reading your post, I discovered a lot of our views are similar. I also believe in same-sex marriage. Love is love, it is plain and simple. I believe it should be our right to marry whomever we fall in love with. According to a CNN News article, same-sex marriage has been legalized nationwide since 2015 which is great (Same-sex marriage fast facts, 2020)!Another thing I believe in is that women often times have it harder than men. It is harder for us to get ahead, meaning we have to more ten times harder, but look at it in the sense that it only makes us stronger.

I agree that everything has a label to it, and I do not like that. I just wish everyone could believe in whatever they wish, and everyone would respect their opinion, but unfortunately that is not how this world works. I respect everyone’s opinion, even if they are a solid liberal. Maybe I do disagree with what they believe in, but I would never say they are wrong. I might ask questions to see more of their side of the matter, but ultimately I do not care what they think, that is their opinion.

What is your thoughts on foreign policies? Do you agree they are important to keep peace throughout the world or should we focus more on our country?

 

Political Typology Quiz. (2020). Pew Research Center. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/)

Same-sex marriage fast facts, (2020). CNN News. https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/us/same-sex- marriage-fast-facts/index.html

 

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GETTING ALONG Bre and Class,

Bre talks about respect for others opinions and hints at more. This ad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAbqiRFjox4)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAbqiRFjox4) just recently came out. What do folks think of it? What does it reveal about where we are in American politics and where we could/should be?

Sam

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Dear Professor,

I love that ad, that ad sums up exactly what I was talking about. Respecting other’s opinions, even if you disagree, is something everyone should take part in.

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Good post- Angela,

I also received the core conservative title as well. I agree with the same-sex marriage, I know many people on the republican side are against it since they support history values and do not really like the change, but agree that love is love and everyone deserves to be happy. I also agree with you on the title. I feel like there shouldn’t be a label on it either and feel that people can be in between, they do not have to be one or the other and everyone should have a right to their own opinion. Thanks for sharing and best of luck to you and your future endeavors!

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Hi Angela, I agree with you that we don’t need to put labels on everything. My experience with the typology quiz was quite similar to yours. I was categorized as devout and diverse. This was a bit of a surprise for me as well because I do not agree with some of the characteristics of this group. For instance, I am pro-immigration but according to this category, devout and diverse people take a more conservative stance on immigrants (“How the Political Typology groups compare,” 2020). However, I agreed with some of the characteristics such as being critical of the current administration. From this observation, I agree with you that a few questions should not be used to generalize one’s political beliefs because it is not an actual representation of people’s true beliefs.

 

Reference

How the Political Typology groups compare. Pew Research Center – U.S. Politics & Policy. (2020). Retrieved 18 October 2020, from https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political- typology-comparison-2017/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political-typology- comparison-2017/)

 

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After taking the quiz, I was placed in the Market Skeptic Republicans group. “They stand out from other Republican-oriented groups in their negative views of the economic system: An overwhelming majority say it “unfairly favors powerful interests.” (Political Typology Quiz, 2020). They mostly identify with the GOP. “Alone among the groups in the GOP coalition, a majority of Market Skeptic Republicans support raising tax rates on corporations and large businesses” (Political Typology Reveals Deep Fissures on the Right and Left, 2020).

I guess I would say that I believe this ideology. I mostly identify as a Republican and have mostly voted Republican in the past. However, I never knew there were different groups of Republicans and Democrats. Before this, I have never really identified as one or the other. This ideology, though, makes sense. I believe in some things Republican but I do have negative views of our economic system.

Political Typology Quiz. (2020, August 27). Retrieved from https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

Political Typology Reveals Deep Fissures on the Right and Left. (2020, August 28). Retrieved from https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/political-typology-reveals-deep-fissures-on-the-right-and- left/